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		<title>By: Dimi</title>
		<link>http://blog.szynalski.com/2009/05/01/review-of-the-dell-2009wa/#comment-379</link>
		<dc:creator>Dimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 10:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review and this is the first time i see text quality in review. However i use samsung 2253bw you can check it, its very good for movies and games but there are not such reviews around it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review and this is the first time i see text quality in review. However i use samsung 2253bw you can check it, its very good for movies and games but there are not such reviews around it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://blog.szynalski.com/2009/05/01/review-of-the-dell-2009wa/#comment-364</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 03:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review.  Can you write an article about the ideal TV size (42&quot;, 46&quot;, 50&quot;)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review.  Can you write an article about the ideal TV size (42&#8243;, 46&#8243;, 50&#8243;)?</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Mead</title>
		<link>http://blog.szynalski.com/2009/05/01/review-of-the-dell-2009wa/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Mead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How nice to find people who actually own the machine.  I am about to buy because i want to se a full A4 text page on screen and thought the portrait position, not an easy feature to find, would be ideal.   Now it seems doubt is being thrown on that as something called &#039;Clear Type&#039; does not work in portrait mode.  Does this monitor realign a page of text when the screen is swivelled to portrait position or is there some software involved that I may not have so the feature is useless to me anyway.  I would like some advice please.  

I currently use a 17 inch CRT LG Flatron 795FT.  Will I be downgrading my picture for Microsoft Office type work if i buy a flatscreen moinitor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How nice to find people who actually own the machine.  I am about to buy because i want to se a full A4 text page on screen and thought the portrait position, not an easy feature to find, would be ideal.   Now it seems doubt is being thrown on that as something called &#8216;Clear Type&#8217; does not work in portrait mode.  Does this monitor realign a page of text when the screen is swivelled to portrait position or is there some software involved that I may not have so the feature is useless to me anyway.  I would like some advice please.  </p>
<p>I currently use a 17 inch CRT LG Flatron 795FT.  Will I be downgrading my picture for Microsoft Office type work if i buy a flatscreen moinitor?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrzej</title>
		<link>http://blog.szynalski.com/2009/05/01/review-of-the-dell-2009wa/#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrzej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tomasz,

I have been using Eizo S2231 for about 1.5 years and I have just installed Dell 2209 screen at my Mum&#039;s and been looking at it. Both have cleartype turned off and on DVI. The text indeed looks different in E-IPS panel and I must admit I personally like the one from S-PVA much better. I guess I even like TN better (I use it at work).

I was surprised when I read your previous Eizo review. Dell&#039;s text looks too &quot;raw&quot; and &quot;thin&quot; for my taste and with colors different than black on white background (for example menus - black text on gray background or any webpage where background is not white) it starts having some sort of white shadows when viewed from a distance. I am thinking of bringing back cleartype for Dell, so that it does not hurt my eyes.

So in summary
- for Eizo, cleartype off gives me ideal
- for Dell, can live with both cleartype on/off, but none of them is perfect

So it seems like it is a more subjective matter than I thought. I would recommend everyone go and check with your own eyes before buying.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tomasz,</p>
<p>I have been using Eizo S2231 for about 1.5 years and I have just installed Dell 2209 screen at my Mum&#8217;s and been looking at it. Both have cleartype turned off and on DVI. The text indeed looks different in E-IPS panel and I must admit I personally like the one from S-PVA much better. I guess I even like TN better (I use it at work).</p>
<p>I was surprised when I read your previous Eizo review. Dell&#8217;s text looks too &#8220;raw&#8221; and &#8220;thin&#8221; for my taste and with colors different than black on white background (for example menus &#8211; black text on gray background or any webpage where background is not white) it starts having some sort of white shadows when viewed from a distance. I am thinking of bringing back cleartype for Dell, so that it does not hurt my eyes.</p>
<p>So in summary<br />
- for Eizo, cleartype off gives me ideal<br />
- for Dell, can live with both cleartype on/off, but none of them is perfect</p>
<p>So it seems like it is a more subjective matter than I thought. I would recommend everyone go and check with your own eyes before buying.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomasz</title>
		<link>http://blog.szynalski.com/2009/05/01/review-of-the-dell-2009wa/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomasz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re talking about the C-fonts (Calibri, Candara, Cambria, Corbel, etc.), I have used them on XP, Vista and Win7 and haven&#039;t noticed any difference. The default ClearType settings might be different between XP and Vista/Win7, but I always tweak them by myself, so I wouldn&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re talking about the C-fonts (Calibri, Candara, Cambria, Corbel, etc.), I have used them on XP, Vista and Win7 and haven&#8217;t noticed any difference. The default ClearType settings might be different between XP and Vista/Win7, but I always tweak them by myself, so I wouldn&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Haines</title>
		<link>http://blog.szynalski.com/2009/05/01/review-of-the-dell-2009wa/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Haines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again for being so helpful. All 3 points you raise already covered.

Maybe it&#039;s a case of my trying to do the impossible - replicate the display on my Vostro laptop on my desktop!

I believe you&#039;re right about being bothered by the large dot pitch on the 1908FP, which would suggest that a 17&quot; screen with the same resolution might get a little bit closer to what I&#039;m after. I can get hold of a 1708FP for little outlay, and that has the same native res. as the 1908FP. Or is that not going to be noticeable enough to make any difference?

But, hey, it&#039;s all so subjective, isn&#039;t it? I can&#039;t abide jagged text so I just have to have Clear Type turned on.

One further small question: is there any difference in the way Vista and XP handle and display fonts? My laptop is Vista, while my desktop is XP. I only use Word 2007 on my desktop under XP, and someone told me that the new fonts in Word 2007 display better with Vista. Is this true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again for being so helpful. All 3 points you raise already covered.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s a case of my trying to do the impossible &#8211; replicate the display on my Vostro laptop on my desktop!</p>
<p>I believe you&#8217;re right about being bothered by the large dot pitch on the 1908FP, which would suggest that a 17&#8243; screen with the same resolution might get a little bit closer to what I&#8217;m after. I can get hold of a 1708FP for little outlay, and that has the same native res. as the 1908FP. Or is that not going to be noticeable enough to make any difference?</p>
<p>But, hey, it&#8217;s all so subjective, isn&#8217;t it? I can&#8217;t abide jagged text so I just have to have Clear Type turned on.</p>
<p>One further small question: is there any difference in the way Vista and XP handle and display fonts? My laptop is Vista, while my desktop is XP. I only use Word 2007 on my desktop under XP, and someone told me that the new fonts in Word 2007 display better with Vista. Is this true?</p>
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		<title>By: tszynalski</title>
		<link>http://blog.szynalski.com/2009/05/01/review-of-the-dell-2009wa/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>tszynalski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dell 1908FP has a TN panel, which is supposed to display very sharp text. Some of the reviews at http://reviews.dell.com/2341/320-5293/reviews.htm also praise the text sharpness on that display.

I&#039;m thinking maybe it&#039;s the large dot pitch that&#039;s bothering you. Personally, I don&#039;t have a problem with slight pixellation, as long as I can clearly make out the boundaries between the pixels and the background. For me, blocky and sharp trumps smooth and fuzzy any day.

Some other ideas:
1. Make sure your monitor is plugged in with a DVI cable. You will never get 100% sharpness if you use an analog cable, no matter how high-end your display. (Sorry if I have just stated something that&#039;s obvious to you.)
2. You might want to try the ClearType Tuner application, available from Microsoft. It allows you to tweak the ClearType settings.
3. You&#039;re not working in portrait mode, are you? ClearType only works in landscape mode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dell 1908FP has a TN panel, which is supposed to display very sharp text. Some of the reviews at <a href="http://reviews.dell.com/2341/320-5293/reviews.htm" rel="nofollow">http://reviews.dell.com/2341/320-5293/reviews.htm</a> also praise the text sharpness on that display.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking maybe it&#8217;s the large dot pitch that&#8217;s bothering you. Personally, I don&#8217;t have a problem with slight pixellation, as long as I can clearly make out the boundaries between the pixels and the background. For me, blocky and sharp trumps smooth and fuzzy any day.</p>
<p>Some other ideas:<br />
1. Make sure your monitor is plugged in with a DVI cable. You will never get 100% sharpness if you use an analog cable, no matter how high-end your display. (Sorry if I have just stated something that&#8217;s obvious to you.)<br />
2. You might want to try the ClearType Tuner application, available from Microsoft. It allows you to tweak the ClearType settings.<br />
3. You&#8217;re not working in portrait mode, are you? ClearType only works in landscape mode.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Haines</title>
		<link>http://blog.szynalski.com/2009/05/01/review-of-the-dell-2009wa/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Haines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much for such a useful review.

Like you, I am far more concerned wuth text quality on a monitor than anything else, as I write a fair bit and read even more. I have no use for watching movies or playing games on my PC, but I do work a little with Photoshop Elements.

Here&#039;s my issue: I&#039;ve been using a Dell 17&quot;  Vostro 1710 laptop with so-called WUXGA display (1920 by 1200), Vista Business Service Pack 2, and the display is BRILLIANT for writing and reading. I believe that Vista has Clear Type turned on by default, so I was particularly interested in your comments on the Eizo&#039;s poor text rendering. Why? Well, my desktop has a Dell Ultrasharp 1908FP monitor (1280 by 1024 native res.) which doesn&#039;t render text particularly well under XP Service Pack 3 with, obviously, Clear Type turned on.

I had been recommended the new 22&quot; Eizo S2242W for improvement, as it has a native res. of 1920 by 1200, and I assumed that the smaller pixel pitch would make the letters clearer than my existing Dell 1908FP.

Now, what you seem to be saying is that this ain&#039;t necessarily so because the Eizo S2242W has the same S-PVA technology as the S2231W that you returned as it was so poor with text. By the way, I use Microsoft Word 2003 and 2007 far more than anything else, both with Vista and XP.

So, am I right in thinking that the raw size of pixels (ie smaller and more of them in native res.) is not as important as how the panel actually lights up those pixels, especially under Clear Type? Because if that is the case, it would appear that I&#039;d be better off with the Dell 2209WA&#039;s larger but better rendered pixels...and saving about 60% on the purchase price over the Eizo at the same time!

Thanks again for flagging. It&#039;s great to read a monitor review that has something important to say about text for we writers - most barely even mention it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much for such a useful review.</p>
<p>Like you, I am far more concerned wuth text quality on a monitor than anything else, as I write a fair bit and read even more. I have no use for watching movies or playing games on my PC, but I do work a little with Photoshop Elements.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my issue: I&#8217;ve been using a Dell 17&#8243;  Vostro 1710 laptop with so-called WUXGA display (1920 by 1200), Vista Business Service Pack 2, and the display is BRILLIANT for writing and reading. I believe that Vista has Clear Type turned on by default, so I was particularly interested in your comments on the Eizo&#8217;s poor text rendering. Why? Well, my desktop has a Dell Ultrasharp 1908FP monitor (1280 by 1024 native res.) which doesn&#8217;t render text particularly well under XP Service Pack 3 with, obviously, Clear Type turned on.</p>
<p>I had been recommended the new 22&#8243; Eizo S2242W for improvement, as it has a native res. of 1920 by 1200, and I assumed that the smaller pixel pitch would make the letters clearer than my existing Dell 1908FP.</p>
<p>Now, what you seem to be saying is that this ain&#8217;t necessarily so because the Eizo S2242W has the same S-PVA technology as the S2231W that you returned as it was so poor with text. By the way, I use Microsoft Word 2003 and 2007 far more than anything else, both with Vista and XP.</p>
<p>So, am I right in thinking that the raw size of pixels (ie smaller and more of them in native res.) is not as important as how the panel actually lights up those pixels, especially under Clear Type? Because if that is the case, it would appear that I&#8217;d be better off with the Dell 2209WA&#8217;s larger but better rendered pixels&#8230;and saving about 60% on the purchase price over the Eizo at the same time!</p>
<p>Thanks again for flagging. It&#8217;s great to read a monitor review that has something important to say about text for we writers &#8211; most barely even mention it.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gzz on good review.
Question for those who seem not to have lighter corners issue: where were they made?
Perhaps backlight is bleeding through panel made in only one of dell factories?
...or different quality for different markets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gzz on good review.<br />
Question for those who seem not to have lighter corners issue: where were they made?<br />
Perhaps backlight is bleeding through panel made in only one of dell factories?<br />
&#8230;or different quality for different markets?</p>
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		<title>By: blink</title>
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		<dc:creator>blink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the 2209WA and it has perfect back lighting with no bright spots.  There is no hum and it doesn&#039;t get hot.  I experienced no color shift from one side of the panel to the other.  I found color saturation to be very good.  I use the panel generally for photo work.  I&#039;m not sure how much the Eizo costs, but it was probably a hell of a lot more than the Dell which cost me about $215.  You might say I&#039;m lucky in getting possibly the one Dell 2209WA that doesn&#039;t have nearly as many problems as yours, but I actually have two 2209WAs and both are nearly identical in quality.  If I were you, I would send your panel back to Dell and ask for another...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the 2209WA and it has perfect back lighting with no bright spots.  There is no hum and it doesn&#8217;t get hot.  I experienced no color shift from one side of the panel to the other.  I found color saturation to be very good.  I use the panel generally for photo work.  I&#8217;m not sure how much the Eizo costs, but it was probably a hell of a lot more than the Dell which cost me about $215.  You might say I&#8217;m lucky in getting possibly the one Dell 2209WA that doesn&#8217;t have nearly as many problems as yours, but I actually have two 2209WAs and both are nearly identical in quality.  If I were you, I would send your panel back to Dell and ask for another&#8230;</p>
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